New record for a sniper shot

zulumoose · **#81** by **zulumoose** » Jun 23, 2017 1:18 pm

What would be interesting to know is a bit of the back-story, in terms of why getting closer or launching some other form of attack (artillery was mentioned a couple of posts back) weren't considered better options. Maybe the target area was under observation and the window of opportunity was unexpected and likely to be short?

Teague · **#82** by **Teague** » Jun 23, 2017 2:22 pm

Shrunk wrote:This guy was so far away it took ten seconds for the bullet to reach the target. I still can't get my head around that.

The amount of elevation required to make that shot.... how did he even scope in on him?

Acetone · **#83** by **Acetone** » Jun 23, 2017 2:59 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:Not a record I find particularly wonderful...

IDK if this has been mentioned already but this shot was taken to prevent an ISIS attack instead of calling in an air strike.

Which would you prefer... a single sniper shot to a commander to halt an attack.

a few air strikes

allow ISIS to carry out their attack

I assume you, like I think most reasonable people, will find the first option the best. In which case it certainly is wonderful that there are people capable of such feats and equipment to make it possible.

felltoearth · **#84** by **felltoearth** » Jun 23, 2017 4:24 pm

^this

Weaver · **#85** by **Weaver** » Jun 23, 2017 5:38 pm

Teague wrote:Why do we celebrate these long range shots lol

Because they're incredibly difficult.

Weaver · **#86** by **Weaver** » Jun 23, 2017 5:39 pm

Teague wrote:
CarlPierce wrote:I bet the isis member was thrilled to be part of the historic record breaking attempt. Can we read about how proud his family is? 'You know I thought mohammed would never amount to anything, but then I read this - over two miles amazing. Mo would have been so chuffed. I just hope all the fame doesn't go to the guy who pulled the trigger, mo did his bit too, standing in just the right place for ten whole seconds adjusting for wind the whole time'.

Assuming it was an ISIS member.

Is there any good reason, aside from your known biases, to think he wasn't?

Weaver · **#87** by **Weaver** » Jun 23, 2017 5:42 pm

Shrunk wrote:
Weaver wrote:
felltoearth wrote:
Shrunk wrote:I admire the feat, and appreciate that this is a very efficient way to achieve a legitimate military objective. But I also think it's weird to keep records for this like it was baseball.

I agree with this.

It isn't records like it's baseball - it's records like it's long range shooting competitions - which it is. We keep records of those who have the tightest groups at various ranges, and on who scores the most points on a course of fire, and on who has the longest shots against stationary targets, and against moving targets - and against unpredictably moving targets, i.e. sniper targets.

Many top snipers are also top competitive shooters - so it really isn't surprising at all.

So this record includes people who are shooting at non-living moving targets in non-combat situations?

No - that is the record for moving targets in a non-combat setting.

The point is that records are kept in recognition of achievement at difficult tasks. Whether it's something as inane as how many pushups a person can do in a minute or long-range sniping, records are kept.

Weaver · **#88** by **Weaver** » Jun 23, 2017 5:43 pm

Teague wrote:
Shrunk wrote:This guy was so far away it took ten seconds for the bullet to reach the target. I still can't get my head around that.

The amount of elevation required to make that shot.... how did he even scope in on him?

Elevated scope base on the rifle. Most sniper rifles have 20mil or 30mil elevated bases - essentially wedge-shaped bases that impart a correction to the entire optic to allow longer range shots than most scopes on a flat base have adjustment room for.

Weaver · **#89** by **Weaver** » Jun 23, 2017 5:44 pm

Teague wrote:
The guy he killed? His 2 5 year old daughters and 2 year old son we're killed by the US - they were "collateral damage" so he went to find an organisation to hit back at the people that murdered his family.

Source?

tuco · **#90** by **tuco** » Jun 23, 2017 5:47 pm

Pushups, that should be interesting, record and topic. But no climbing without ropes!

Weaver · **#91** by **Weaver** » Jun 23, 2017 5:51 pm

tuco wrote:Pushups, that should be interesting, record and topic. But no climbing without ropes!

Skinny Puppy · **#92** by **Skinny Puppy** » Jun 23, 2017 5:59 pm

Weaver wrote:
Teague wrote:Why do we celebrate these long range shots lol

Because they're incredibly difficult.

As a person who has done an incredible amount of shooting (12-guage shotgun only (Skeet Shooting)) this guy’s skill is simply amazing!

I doubt that I could even hit a barn with a rifle, never fired one. :lol:

Bravo to him and to the other record holders. :thumbup:

monkeyboy · **#93** by **monkeyboy** » Jun 23, 2017 6:30 pm

Furthest I ever shot at was 800m with a L96A1. There is a special kind of skill to people who can shoot consistently at that sort of range. I'd gone from nailing targets at 400m with nice groups under 25mm to being happy if I hit the target at all. The ballistics and windage starts interfering with simple straight shooting at that sort of range, changing it from simply lining up and breathing properly, easy squeezy, bang to, what's the terrain, wind, temperature, humidity, recent weather all like and it's starting to get into weighing up where your target will be when the bullet arrive ( It was around that time I realised I was best off where I was back in the MG section. Lots of room for missed rounds in the MG section).
My mind can't compute a shot over 4 times that distance.

crank · **#94** by **crank** » Jun 23, 2017 7:16 pm

Has anyone read the Stephen Hunter sniper novels? It's been over 10 years ago, but I read I think the first 3 and really enjoyed them, good thrillers, cool character.

laklak · **#95** by **laklak** » Jun 23, 2017 8:24 pm

I'm gooder'n shit up to maybe 150-200 yards but that's about it. Beyond that I can't even see the target through the scope. This dude was massive awesome, we're not fucking worthy.

Mazille · **#96** by **Mazille** » Jun 23, 2017 9:02 pm

Weaver wrote:
Teague wrote:Why do we celebrate these long range shots lol

Because they're incredibly difficult.

So is fucking a blender.

I'm With Stupid · **#97** by **I'm With Stupid** » Jun 23, 2017 9:33 pm

Teague wrote:Why do we celebrate these long range shots lol

The military needs heroes for its PR. That's what gets the next generation of kids interested. In an era of drone strikes and questionable conflicts, they've probably been struggling for them.

Fallible · **#98** by **Fallible** » Jun 23, 2017 9:46 pm

Mazille wrote:
Weaver wrote:
Teague wrote:Why do we celebrate these long range shots lol

Because they're incredibly difficult.

So is fucking a blender.

There speaks the bitter voice of experience.

Mazille · **#99** by **Mazille** » Jun 23, 2017 11:15 pm

Fallible wrote:
Mazille wrote:
Weaver wrote:
Teague wrote:Why do we celebrate these long range shots lol

Because they're incredibly difficult.

So is fucking a blender.

There speaks the bitter voice of experience.

Aye. Sniping ISIS fighters, fucking blenders... In the end all you get is a dead prick.

felltoearth · **#100** by **felltoearth** » Jun 24, 2017 3:43 pm

Interesting aspect to this story...

Officials have refused to provide any other details about the incident, including where and when it occurred, citing operational security. But they maintain that the soldier was operating within the established limits of Canada’s so-called “advise and assist” mission in Iraq.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... story.html

The Canadian government has been denying that troops have been involved in active combat in Iraq and the opposition has been pressing the issue from time to time.

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