Jayjay4547 wrote:Atheist ideology is a set of notions about the world
Fallible wrote:List them.
Jayjay4547 wrote:List of ideological notions held by atheists:(a)We not in relation with anything more creative than us.
(b)There is nothing special about human beings
(c) There is no purpose in evolution
(d) We are apes with smarts.
(e) Evolution is a bushing out of life into a variety of forms.
Each of these notions has played a part in messing up the human origin story as told in terms of evolution.
a) would you have us
assume we ARE in relation with anything more creative than us?
If you could
demonstrate that we are, instead of publishing
lazy wank about it, you wouldn't be able to list this one.
b) each of your assertions about how special human beings are should be listed in one go so they can be addressed; oh, dear! That promises another list of lazy wank from JJ, probably a restatement of your ideas about relation to a Creator, so, not really different to your a). Many attempts have been made at "hoomins is speshul", but these are non-scientific opinions and wishes.
c) would you have us assume there is a purpose in evolution?
See also: your a), you know, about a Creator.
d) why don't you start by defining "smarts", and after doing that, explain how humans are NOT apes, which includes the creationist stipulation that humans are not evolved from a common ancestor of other genera of modern primates.
See also: your a), you know, about a Creator.
e) the creationist assumption is that all "forms" were created at the same time, rather than starting simple and "bushing"
If you are not a YEC, then you should abandon your e) as a "tenet" of "atheist ideology" as there is no evidence for the creationist gibbering about "forms", which is a leftover from medieval (or earlier) metaphysics. See also: your a) about a Creator.
Unless you can address this single point, about the Creator it seems you would just have us assume, you have not robustly presented the components of "atheist ideology". If you were competent to do so or "atheist ideology" was something besides your pipe dream, you could have done so at one go. What do you suppose I conclude from that, JJ? Here's a hint for you:
atheist ideology is your pipe dream, and your a) through e) are not a demonstration of your competence in any field.
Fenrir wrote:Did you think you could fob us off with lazy wank?
The fact that you tried to do it is a demonstration of your laziness and/or incompetence and/or confusion. You could fix everything simply by accepting that you disagree with the conclusions of science and that you promote the lazy wank of creationism. Frankly, I don't take this as devoutly-held belief on your part as much as I take it as presenting symptoms of mental illness that you have not had diagnosed previously. You could simply admit that you experience and enjoy expressing bigotry toward those whom you believe to be "denying their Creator" in order to dispel that inference. In that case, it would not be signs of mental illness, but only of devoutly-held religious belief. You'd then have the problem of figuring out why devoutly-held religious belief inspires so much bigotry.
Jayjay4547 wrote:Each of these notions has played a part in messing up the human origin story as told in terms of evolution.
There's really only one notion, JJ. You're a creationist, and you reject the discoveries of science. Not just in biology, but in astrophysics, to name another field, as well. You are stealthily suggesting the rejection of all basic science, are you not? I don't know how you believe the surveying equipment you used to play with actually was developed, but basic science was involved. I don't know how you believe the internet you're using to spread your filthy lies was developed, but basic science was involved. If you appreciate that the food you eat does not regularly make you ill from microbe-borne toxins, you have science to thank. You really owe your life of lazy wank to science, rather than to some devoutly-believed-in
Creator. And you lie about not recognizing this.