Posted: Apr 10, 2017 9:04 am
by OlivierK
Macdoc wrote:
If it's simply a case of Scribbler adding his usual hyperbolic spin to a more measured source, then I guess it may end up as a more dire view. I'll give it a read later on


Scribbler is always polemic....but he is also thorough....sometimes he's wrong...he also is willing to admit it.

Seems you are unable to admit you are wrong about pre-industrial ...in fact are you now admitting that we are not going to take until 2040 to get to 1.5 above PRE-INDUSTRIAL instead of 20th century average which you like to tout.

Let's make it perfectly clear....the Paris accord is PRE-INDUSTRIAL as a base line and you now finally admit we are far beyong the .8 you keep trotting out time and again.

Oh for fuck's sake let it go.

We're about 1.1C above pre-industrial on trend, which means El Ninos that add around 0.3C to individual years are now coming in at around 1.4C over pre-industrial (or higher in single months). If you think I've stated that we're about 0.8C over pre-industrial currently, then I'm sure you'll be able to quote me - but I know I haven't said that because that would be stupid, and I'm not so ignorant of the temperature record to think that (clearly the same isn't true of Scribbler's source, and Scribbler's not familiar enough or thorough enough to have picked that up).

And our current level of around 1.1C over pre-industrial temperatures, and warming rate of around 0.2C/decade means that trendline temperatures are due to go through 1.5C above pre-industrial around 2040.

After all the fucking errors you've made on this subject where I've walked you through the maths, the fact that you think it's me making the errors would be astounding if I hadn't seen it dozens of times before. As I said at the beginning, let it go. If you want to make a thing of it AGAIN, then I'll school you in it AGAIN.