Posted: Apr 09, 2017 11:07 am
by Thommo
Corkey wrote:
Thommo wrote:
Corkey wrote:"The map is not the territory." - Alfred Korzybski It's a gateway if you choose to use it.

A printed map of the Earth manifests in the arrangement of multicolored inks on a piece of paper, but the map is not ink and paper. A digital map manifests in the arrangements of contrasting pixels on a computer screen, but the map is not the pixels or the screen. "The map is not the territory," it's not a metaphor. Simply put, the software is not the hardware.


I don't think I agree with this, and I'm fairly sure it's not what the quote means.

A map being distinct from the territory does not mean that a map is not ink and paper (or patterns of pixels depending on the specific map).


A map printed on a piece of paper manifests in the arrangements of the inks. The map is not matter, paper, ink, and computer hardware are.


This seems intractable. My whole point was that I don't accept your leap there. There's no connection between the premise that there's a need for arranging the paper and inks correctly to create the map and the conclusion that the map is not the paper and ink (when so arranged).

You haven't eliminated, or even considered the possibility, you've assumed it away and I don't think I agree with that.