Posted: Apr 30, 2019 6:59 am
Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:The_Piper wrote:Even if god did create the universe, then either something created god, or god came from nothing. This is not a profound insight, it's mere common sense. You still haven't answered any questions by thinking god did it.Pridefel Knowitelz wrote:The_Piper wrote:Did god create itself?
I don't think it makes sense to think that anything can create or give rise to itself, nor do I think that the universe's origins can be explained by going back infinitely through a series of events, ie a big bang preceded by another, and another.
Which of course doesn't leave many options left.
If the universe is not a creation by a conscious creator, then what caused the very first physical event in whatever universe in a multiverse (whatever it may be)? Nothing whatsoever?
Begging the question (again). How do you know there was a "very first physical event"?
I'm not asking you to give a definitive answer. I'm just wondering what your speculation is. You don't really think that something can arise from nothing, do you? The buck has to stop somewhere, not at "nothing".
A couple of possibilities to consider are (let me know if you can think of any others) :
An infinite reprogression of physical events.
FIFY
A conscious, omnipotent, omnipresent, benevolent, eternal, self existent, omniscient being affectionately known as God Almighty.
Any omnipotence can go fuck itself, right?