Posted: Apr 21, 2017 12:19 pm
by OlivierK
ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:
OlivierK wrote:That there is a higher intelligence outside of the universe that created the universe is similarly unfounded.

Oops, there goes the bathwater.


It appears you fail to grasp something very simple; that a higher intelligence outside of the universe that created the universe is unfounded, but that crude universes are created is not unfounded.

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This founded universe type (particularly, crude universes (simulations)) are those that are included in the redefinition, as mentioned in the original post.

Nope. Speech by a higher intelligence outside the universe is unfounded, but speech within the universe by humans is trivially not unfounded.

Exactly the argument that you call "stupid" about speech applies to the creation of simulations.

Both are human skills.

It's stupid to attribute either to a god.

It's stupid to redefine god as anything in the universe capable of speech.

It's equally stupid to redefine god as anything in the universe capable of creating simulations.