Posted: Apr 21, 2017 4:48 pm
ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:OlivierK wrote:
So, in many mythologies, God speaks to humans. Since the ability to speak persists amongst humans in the world, therefore we can update the definition of god to retain the power of speech, and note that humans are now gods using the updated definition which has dropped all the omni-bullshit.OlivierK wrote:
Nope. Speech by a higher intelligence outside the universe is unfounded, but speech within the universe by humans is trivially not unfounded.
Exactly the argument that you call "stupid" about speech applies to the creation of simulations.
Both are human skills.
It's stupid to attribute either to a god.
It's stupid to redefine god as anything in the universe capable of speech.
It's equally stupid to redefine god as anything in the universe capable of creating simulations.OlivierK wrote:
Nope, the analogy still holds. Every statement you make about creating universes can be turned around to one about speech, and vice versa. They're interchangeable examples:
So, that there is some higher intelligence that creates universes is still unfounded.
...but that humans speak, is empirically observed.
As long as you think that defining speech as a god-property is stupid, then you're equally arguing that defining simulation-creation as a god-property is stupid.
Let's break thing down toddler style:
Seriously, what do you hope to achieve with this?
Are you gunning for suicide by mod? Or just vapidly trolling?