Posted: Jun 13, 2011 1:52 am
HomerJay wrote:willhud9 wrote:But, in fact, homerjay can you prove that civilians deaths are higher than enemy military casualties? The US, especially, bends over backwards to prevent civilian deaths, even to the point of letting known suspects go because they were hiding in a hospital.
Er, I didn't make the claim that civilian deaths were higher, I stated the numbers were a side show.
We do know the merkins were willing to accept that 25% of civilians deaths was a win.
Yeah, its called war. Try to butter it up all you'd like, people die. Sometimes innocents happen to get caught in the way. The US does its best to make sure that does not happen.
Of course, if you are to argue that wars should never be fought and militaries are too be disbanded, I will laugh at you
We do know the merkins haven't been truthful about civilian deaths in the past.
According to what source and why should military information such as that even be released to the public? Top officials, yes, but not the general public who sees the phrase "civilian casualty" and immediately flips a shit about the atrocities of war.
We should know that if the merkins now claim they have sorted the problem but they aren't going to say how or why, that we can claim bullshit.
Fine, claim bullshit, what are you going to do about it? Complain to the UN? The US pretty much controls it financially. Sanction us via trade? Fine. The US could use a lesson about becoming financially and economically independent.
What is objectionable to Weaver's claim is that we should now trust the merkins on face value and accept our ignorance. It's an infantile approach that doesn't dignify it's perpetrators or us. Don't even bring it to the table.
I think I value Weaver's judgement on this matter, more so than yours. Especially since Weaver is in a position to know the truth.