Posted: Mar 07, 2012 10:00 am
by DefineGod

I don't think there are any ultimate "truths" I do think it's all relative. And I'll explain my reasoning so you can see what I'm saying. If I stand in my garden facing someone else, and we both look behind each other, one of us will see the Indian Ocean, the other will see green sugar cane fields. We are both telling the truth when we say "I can see the Indian Ocean/green cane fields" because we are looking from our own perspective. Hence, relative truth.

When I use the word "unfortunately" I'm referring to the inevitable slanging matches that always result of this sort of discussion. Someone will come in with insults about atheists being dishonest or something, and someone else will come with theists being idiots for believing in whatever it is they happen to believe in. Which is why I said put on a thick skin and brace yourself, and you will learn. Don't be put off by the swearing, slanging, snideness. I like talking to intelligent people who take the trouble to do some research. :cheers:


I would agree with you on this point if we were to say that relative perception is based upon relative circumstances. I will say that metaphysically there is an objective reality. This point is central to my argument. So I must be saying that relative truth is to be founded on metaphysical "ultimate" truth. (This is what we will call it for now.) I like polite people, atheists included, I just want to understand them better.
It is nice to have a good conversation. Thanks Aggie
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