Posted: May 11, 2012 7:33 am
amkerman wrote:For this I define God as subject independent consciousness, or, objective consciousness.
1. All experience and observation, including the experience and observation of (B)reality is dependent upon (A)consciousness
2. A cannot prove the objectivity (subject independence) of B without first proving th objectivity of A
3. Consciousness cannot prove the objectivity of reality without first prvoing the objectivity of consciousness
4. A cannot prove the objectivity of A
5. Consciousness cannot prove the objectivity of consciousness
6. That which is not susceptible to rigourous proof can only be believed.
7. The objectivity of consciousness can only be believed.
1. All experience and observation, including the experience and observation of reality, is dependent on consciousness
3. Consciousness cannot prove the objectivity of reality without first proving the objectivity of consciousness
8. The objectivity of reality can only be proven through a belief in the objectivity of consciousness.
9. Any belief or supposed knowledge about reality is dependent on a belief in objective consciousness, or, God.
Let us start with "1" here.
Would you tell us what you mean by "consciousness"? There are so many different definitions of and stances toward "consciousness" that we simply cannot assume that others know what we mean when using the word.