Posted: May 30, 2014 10:12 am
virphen wrote:JTRizzle wrote:
the man may not have been purposefully insulting you, but you purposefully insulted him. that is not very reasonable. i am insulted when someone burps loudly and purposefully when he is eating at my table. if i am ever eating with a person from a certain part of the middle east (i can't remember where) then i would not be insulted, because i would know the man was not trying to insult me. if i had a child who was just learning to speak and he called me a fucktard, i would find the comment insulting, but i would not feel i was insulted by the child because he had no idea he was insulting me. if the preacher was purposefully insulting you than he was wrong and you sunk down to his level.
Ahhh, and here we go: you fail to recognise the impact of the aggression he offered me, and you double down on that by insulting me personally. You just don't seem to have any conception of why. Various theists (certainly not all) offer all sorts of insults - other examples include but are certainly not limited to: homophobic rationalisations, justifications for biblical genocide, allusions that atheists are less than fully human. Trust me, there's plenty of insults to go around.
Except you automatically arrange to win the "oh atheists are so prone to insulting us poor innocent Christians" because you only acknowledge what you personally regard as insulting. That's extremely fucking rude, actually.
as i said, if the man was purposefully insulting you, you have every right to be insulted, but you have no right to insult him. i did not purposefully insult you, i just said your behavior was not reasonable. i have bean unreasonable many times, its not the end of the world. you simply gave me an anecdote, and i told you what i thought about it. it is hard to be convinced that atheists aren't prone to purposefully insulting Christians when every forum i go on, i am purposefully insulted continuously by atheists. now, here's the thing. Christians are every bit as prone to purposefully insulting atheists. they are every bit as wrong as the atheists who insult Christians. my point is that arguments among Christians do not contain nearly the same number of insults as arguments between atheists and Christians. why? because both sides of the argument, when both are Christian, accept that purposefully insulting someone is a sin for which there is no excuse, that the sin damns us, it is only by the grace of God that we are forgiven. we accept these notions, and have no problem pointing it out to each other, so the insults remain at a minimum.
this fact remains: you have no right to feel that a person has insulted you unless they meant to insult you. i do not mean to insult you when i say that you sin. if you are insulted by this, i am sorry, but you should not be because i am not purposefully insulting you.