Posted: Aug 27, 2016 5:12 pm
Thommo wrote:kyrani99 wrote:Thommo wrote:kyrani99 wrote:
Here is where you distinctly make the point of racism.
Many times I have said of myself to others after a long day at the beach "I reckon I've tanned up real well today"!
My attitude was that if I was going to be called blackie and dago and other racist remarks why not look as dark as possible!
Err Kirani. I distinctly don't.
I know you said your English is poor, but you really need to read this more thoroughly if you think that accuses you of racism, it's an explanation of pronouns, one that you really ought to understand well. "he" and "I" mean completely different things.
So has every Southern European! Same racial hatred as was leveled against Africans and Asian has also been leveled against Greeks and Italians. Nothing different. You are the racist.
Kirani, you and Shrunk had a dispute over whether your comment had been racist. Whilst I expressed no view on that I am not pretending that I was not aware of this fact and nor should you be. You expressed rather a stupid view that you couldn't have been being racist because you're a Greek Australian who'd had partners of differing ethnicities (oddly you identified the stupidity of this reasoning yourself when someone put it in terms of an analogy with misogyny, which may be telling) and this apparently gives you comparable experiences of racism to those that African Americans face or something equally silly.
That quote you've marked in red there does not say "you are a racist". It does not imply "you are a racist". It points out that the experience of African Americans in terms of racism is very different to your own and you are not entitled to make assumptions about, nor speak on behalf of their experience. I do not accept the commonalities that you appeal to. The history of slavery, segregation and discrimination in the US is a profound political and psychological force.
Frankly, it hardly seems controversial to say that African Americans have been subjected to a long history of racial prejudice. It's probably one of the most peculiar statements I've ever seen picked out for disputation on these boards, and that's saying something.
The history (in the making) of slavery, segregation and discrimination of Greece and the Greek people by Germany in particular, who is a puppet of US commercial exploitative interests, is a profound political and psychological force.