Posted: Oct 07, 2016 11:01 pm
by Thomas Eshuis
igorfrankensteen wrote:As an atheist myself, I find that so far, Jamest is making the most purely logical sense about this.

All modern gods that I am aware of, are defined as supernatural in every way, including that the phrase "before god was here" is nonsense.

I particularly agree with the application of the word "naive" for this thread question. Do you REALLY think you are the first person to ask this question, and expect theists to fall apart in consternation? Goodness gracious, I've heard portions of at least a thousand sermons BY THEISTS, asking and answering this exact question for the exact reason that it was asked here.

I'm frankly surprised that so many other estimable thinkers here haven't recognized this as well.

The only people I have ever met who found the title question particularly interesting, were fledgling atheists, just making their very first steps away from knuckling under to some theist family member or another.

By the way, for the other real atheists here, I suggest another answer to the question to use, in case you are asked. That answer is,

Q: Who made God? A: EACH and EVERY person who conceives thereof. They "make" god in their own minds, because that is the only place that any god exists. Baal is no more, because no one "makes" Baal any more.

Jamest is not the only ones objecting to the OP's question however.
More-over several of his arguments beg the question themselves.