Posted: Oct 08, 2016 2:07 am
Animavore wrote:jamest wrote:Animavore wrote:What did the first cause cause without something already there? Can't have a domino effect without dominos.
I can't speak for other theists, but you know that I'm an idealist who thinks that all creation happens in God's consciousness as an experience, so God doesn't need anything else to create something. Though I agree with your base concern and why this would be a problem for other theists.
If all creation 'happens' in God's consciousness, then that consciousness needs reference points; like a person when they dream. Same, too, for experience. All experience is an experience of something else. Can't experience without things to experience.
So yes, God needs something else to create something - A reference point.
No, all God needs [initially] to create an experience in its own mind is the intelligence to ponder the possibility of more than itself.
... The rest is history, even as it happens now,