Posted: Nov 25, 2016 10:52 am
Keep It Real wrote:Do you think theism is bad for civilisation?Not really, I think we still need it. Haven't you heard theists argue that without God everybody would be raping and murdering? They're talking about themselves when they say that. Not everyone can keep an even keel without the carrot of Heaven and the stick of Hell.
I think everyoneone who isn't genetically predisposed to hard sociopathy can, with the right secular upbringing, become totally morally normal, ethical human beings.
The people who say that without God watching them, they'd be raping and killing, have been conditioned to think like that. with a normal secular upbringing, they wouldn't actually be saying that shit.
Even if these people still believe people behave only because of a carrot-and-stick model instilled in them, then the societal carrot-and-stick(prison or normal social life with coworkers, friends and family) model seems to be just as effective as the Paradise-and-Hell model is at instilling in people a sense of moral responsibility through a threat of punishment and a promise of reward for good behavior.
Pertinent example: Scandinavia.