Posted: Aug 13, 2017 2:22 am
by Wortfish
Thommo wrote:

And if that's what you mean, then - and this is important - that is what you should say. It's not a complicated thing to say, "Sometimes things we believe can be wrong".

And yes, I'd agree with that. Sometimes people believe things that are wrong. Maybe even you believe some things that are wrong. But let's be fair, this is stunningly banal, it's like pointing out that things that will happen tomorrow haven't happened yet, it's not really a suitable conversation for adults.

The context for this is the dispute over what Aquinas wrote concerning the moving of things. I have argued that he was making a provisional and general claim (based on empirical observation) rather than a categorical and absolute claim.

I didn't. What I meant was what I said and that includes the indicative sentences both before and after that fragment.

So how does it work if only Christians are complete morons and Christians are not complete morons? :?