Posted: Sep 05, 2017 11:15 am
Wortfish wrote:archibald wrote:
Wordfish? Is this not the case? Why does the universe need a creator if god supposedly doesn't?
I mean, giving a reason other than, 'god just doesn't' because any fool can say the same about the universe.
Very simply, God does not need a creator because he has always existed and never began to exist. The universe needs a creator because (as I believe) it began to exist. Of course, if the universe is eternal, then a Creator-God cannot exist. And this is why many of the atheist posters here are determined to defend the possibility, or rather absurdity, of an infinite past. However, just because the universe had a beginning, and presumably a cause, does not mean that God was responsible...but it is consistent with the idea.
So, it's absurd for a universe to have in infinite past, but when it comes to a god having an infinite past that's just dandy.