Posted: Jan 09, 2020 11:10 am
by GrahamH
Cito di Pense wrote:
How am I better off assuming there are no uncaused events, when manifestly, there are? You'd have to understand some science in order to discuss this. Your trick is say that there only appear to be uncaused events. See also, hypothetical.


"Manifestly there are"? They may well be, but hoe can classlessness be "manifest"? These are events that have no observable or theoretical cause, so calling them "uncaused" is reasonable, but hardly a definitive "metaphysical truth", is it?

If jamest want to pretend that "virtual particles" are "caused by the imaginings of god's infinite mind" of some such twaddle we can discount it as twaddle by we can't demonstrate it is "manifestly" false. Someone like Conway who speaks of free will in quantum particles might say it is free will that is the cause of radioactive decay (I hope he would say no such thing, this is just a what if).

Can you clarify what are these manifestly uncaused events?