Posted: Sep 29, 2010 6:01 am
by hotshoe
Ichthus77 wrote:I
I do not apply such things as entropy to God, no.
True, YOU do not apply such things as entropy to god.
God is non-physical
worthless made-up, unevidenced nonsense
(transcending, even when taking on flesh).
That's a lie.
Time is relevant to God's immanence,
schizophrenic word salad
but God also transcends.
worthless made-up unevidenced nonsense again.
The same would (presumably) be true if the cause of the physical is not God (transcending the physical, but also being immanent within it--kinda like 3-D's relation to 1-D.
Probably true
Your final sentence is kinda weird and out of the blue.
Maybe because you're too full of what you want to say next to follow along with what someone else is actually saying ...
My assertion is that something with a beginning cannot cause itself
Which is a completely worthless and ungrounded assertion bearing no relationship to reality,
and you have agreed.
No, you misunderstood and there is no agreement here.
Why would we even agree w/ that, if we did not agree on causation?
good question
And if we agree on causation,
Big IF
then we agree that something with a beginning needs a cause other than itself
.No one agrees with that except deluded theists who are trying to prop up their failing faith with an illogical justification dressed up in outworn philosophy
I don't have all the details worked out.
Finally, another true statement
I'd love to have that done, but, gee, I just don't have a lot of time.
I believe you. Maybe you should spend more time working on your faith and less time posting here insulting atheists for their "faith".