Posted: Oct 01, 2010 10:00 am
by trubble76
Ichthus77 wrote:

trubble, hotshoe, and anyone else included in this aspect of the discussion: if atheism is not a positive belief (in a world with no God, or in the nonexistence of God), but rather a lack of belief (in the existence of God, or in a world with God), then...

I give you...

hehehe *snort*


The theism of the New Theism is not a belief, but a lack of belief--a lack of belief in a world with no God--a lack of belief in the nonexistence of God--because, there is just no evidence for the belief that there is no God. All the evidence (who? we dunno couldn't be atheists, because they don't believe anything...) use to support the nonexistence of God is in fact irrational gibberish invented by spin doctors and regurgitated by the unthinking masses. Their strongest evidence--the argument from evil--contradicts itself when you consider that if there is not always a real good (God) to which moral truth always corresponds, then there is no real evil (and thus no real argument from evil). And it is answered by the reality that if God, like an evil dictator, did not allow us to choose evil, the choice of Golden Rule love-despite-circumstances would be impossible--and he promises a happy ending for all those who choose it (or, at least, do not reject it). Therefore, going with our intuition that there is a real good, we favor a theistic conclusion (there is no faith involved in this, but somehow, we are not quite certain, either), but really we just lack belief in the nonexistence of God. We don't really believe anything.

Seriously. That's what y'all atheists sound like.

Seriously? Is that the best you can do? You reject the definition of atheism and replace with what you think is the definition of atheism and your justification for that is wordplay with double negatives? You do realise that in that little passage you have rejected your positive belief in god for a passive one, don't you? I wonder how your god might view that rejection.

You reject science and the mountains of good evidence behind it, on the basis of....wordplay. Step back, be honest with yourself, and realise that you believe simply what you were taught to believe and what you want to believe. Evidence is nothing to you, and that's why you can be wrong and happy about it.