Posted: Jun 06, 2012 4:14 pm
by backmarker
Thanks for the welcome, babel.

MacIver wrote:
[*]there is a first cause, and it was uncaused[/*]


I'm confused. How can you state there was "always something" and that there is a "first cause"? If there has always been something, then whatever caused the first cause must of had it's own cause, no? Which leads to the old atheistic question: "If God created everything who created God?".


Thanks for the response, MacIver. My present thinking is that God didn't literally create everything in the sense that he didn't create himself. Likewise, I don't think God can literally do anything; for example, he can't be God and not be God at the same time and in the same relationship. Is there a current discussion on this topic somewhere? I probably can't add much value, but I'm here to learn.

BTW, I like your added thoughts on something vs. nothing.