Posted: Nov 16, 2020 1:47 am
by Deist513
Deist513 wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
Deist513 wrote:Hello so as my name says I am an agnostic deist. I was a devout christian before certain events in my life lead me to conclude all religion was a manmade falsehood. I actually still believe this, but somewhat lean towards the idea there may be a God and afterlife we do not understand hence my rather recent position of deism. I still admire many atheist thinkers to this day as I view religion to be a falsehood. I think that if there is a God he largely is unconcerned with hummanity, and religous preconceptions of his meddling in human affairs to be largely without basis in reality. My first post was actually about pursuing a career in biological research which I do not know if that willl be possible I hope to make a reality someday. Thank you so much for reading.


You're still evidently stuck with the vocabulary you learned as a theist. You might as well still be a theist for all I care. Most notably, you're still practicing theology. You only received the notion of a deity from theists, so you have to do better than "leaning towards" this stuff in accounting for why you use the vocabulary of theism at all. Some members here will coddle your soft-headed pronouncements (entities "we don't understand") in hopes you won't go back to being a confirmed theist. Better luck conversing with them.



I see quite scathing, but I do not mind at all. I actually still debate with myself my recent idea that God/and or an afterlife exists. I would actually say I am well below 60% leaning that way probably more like 51% if anythings. I called myself an agnostic atheist for around six to seven years, and would have classified myself as a 5 or 6 on the Dawkins scale.

Sorry I seem to have offended you so much. I highly doubt I will go back to being a theist, but you will never really know as I never thought I would leave christianity either.

As far as why I am a deist is because I think there are certain while far from conclusive hints that their may be an afterlife, and a universal observer of the universe at large.

I do not believe this being cares for us particularly much if at all, or that he answers prayers or some such thing as a theist would. Hence I label myself a deist.

You will find I do not need to be coddled at all as I am quite open to changing my mind, and rarely get offended by people. So fire away.


I suppose what convinced me to a very limited extent as I am far from certain of even the deistic proposition much less a theistic one which I am convinced is false is as follows.

From my limited understanding of physics matter changes under observation, and I have also read it may be that matter requires observation to function the way it does.

The other pieces of evidence that convinced me was reading about mentally disable people frequently with incomplete brains far exceeding the expectations of medical doctors, but this could easily be labelled a God of the gaps argument.