Posted: Apr 09, 2012 7:58 pm
Tails Turrosaki wrote:
It's not so much for the sake of marriage but it's the implication of marriage. It's saying that we are equal.
No. It's trying to say "we are the same. There is no difference." Equality is not the same thing as identity. In the UK, gays are already equal.
Also, tradition is never a reason for anything political. Come on. That's just being sentimental. Might as well complain about the new Pokemon generations because EVERYTHIN AFTR RED IZNT GUD!11!!
No, it's not sentimentality. I think there are fundamental facts, based on our biology and natural cultural development, which underlying the traditional concept of marriage.
Let me give it some perspective...
I also believe human beings are naturally tribal animals. That is to say that we are psychologically predisposed to operate as small groups where everybody knows everybody else, and the whole landbase is known to all. I think many of the problems of the modern world stem from our alienation from this natural state. I also think our culture is largely driven by our need to fill this lost natural social environment (hence the popularity of following football teams or watching soap operas). That's the way humans are made, and our cultural systems reflect it (poorly, in that case, which is why we're screwing up the planet.)
The above isn't "sentimental." We are tribal animals. That is our natural state. Are we naturally heterosexually monogamous? No, we aren't. Take away thousands of years of cultural development and you will probably find the natural state of humans is one of partial monogamy but always tending towards powerful males having multiple wives. But this causes wider social problems, because it leads to large numbers of males who have no wives at all, so most human cultures have, at some point, intentionally outlawed that sort of polygamy (sometimes via religious laws, sometimes via secular laws, sometimes just due to tribal custom.) The result is our cultural institution of marriage between a man and a woman being the normal state. Homosexuality always existed, of course, and has been regarded very differently by different cultures at different times. But it was always regarded as different to marriage, everywhere and always, apart from now...
It's also like saying the blacks had water fountains, too. They were right next to the white fountains, but they weren't the white's fountains. But it's the same thing who cares? Segregation? Please, everyone's equal here!... Equally segregated.
No. You are already equal. You want to claim everyone is the same, and they aren't.