Posted: Apr 10, 2012 7:33 pm
Loren Michael wrote:Jakov wrote:Can they really be said to be doing this willingly when they have almost no other source of information than the corporate-controlled media?Jeffersonian-marxist wrote:Perhaps "willfully" was the wrong word to use, but I agree that it is corporate-based media that ultimately wins the hearts and minds of the population regarding the relevant issues.
Do you to have any of the [citations needed] to make such assertions?
Given that the highest-rated cable news program, Fox News, has a viewership of less than 1% of the US population AND less than 1% of people who actually vote, I'm skeptical of those kinds of claims.
You take it for granted that we think Fox news is the only bad one. Our hypothesis is that all media subject to market pressures behave like this.
That includes supposedly liberal outlets like The Guardian newspaper.
I wrote some of my thoughts about this back in 2011 when I started to realise it.
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/news- ... 24772.html
I guess I should update it a little and rebutt some of the points.
There's also the book Manufacturing Consent by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky, which contains a lot of evidence and analysis about this.
Panderos wrote:Jakov wrote:Stop with the stupid "what's it called" discussions. As if anything changes just because you decide to call it democracy or republic.
You're like children who think the sun is called "sun" because it's hot, bright and yellow. You must realise that the mere word used to describe is not the thing in itself.
Haha. Have you read the Theism and Its Strong Points thread yet?
How about every thread containing the world 'socialism'?
Not read the theism one but sadly I have to suffer through many threads with 'socialism' in the title.
With supporters claiming European social democracies prove socialism is good, and opponents claiming marx-leninist Russia and Cuba prove socialism is bad.