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chairman bill wrote:Yoiu want examples? You'll get fucking examples.

CarlPierce wrote:... And you are willing to forgive the Labour party sending freedom fighters back to Libya but you condemn the lib-dems for not managing to get one of their policies included in the coalition agreement.

Was it real or Rendition Labour that introduced fees in the first place ?

Which way does your moral compass point exactly ?

The suggestion that it was Labour, as opposed to certain ministers, is simplistic nonsense of course, but either way, the statement that asserts that I would forgive those that engaged in rendition to Libya is a fucking lie. So strike one.

It was a Labour government and ministers in that government, so it was unquestionably Labour who did these things.

The fact you remained a Labour member throughout the whole episode suggests, if not forgiveness, then a certain level of comfort with extraordinary rendition to Arab despotates.

Or to put it another way: I would leave the Lib Dems if any Lib Dem minister had been involved in rendition, and I suspect Carl would do the same.

chairman bill wrote:Here's some more bollocks ...

Strontium Dog wrote:... Bang on. Bill laments "New Labour and "Rendition Labour" and wants a return to "Real Labour", not seeming to appreciate that they are all the same thing; one party, indivisible ...

Again, a misrepresentation of my position. Strike two.

This isn't a misrepresentation, this is my perspective.

chairman bill wrote:

CarlPierce wrote:... you happily misrepresent the Lib-dems position on univ course funding knowing full well its simply a policy we weren't able to get into the coalition agreement.

Untrue. A lie. Strike three.

So will you stop criticising the Lib Dems on tuition fees?

chairman bill wrote:

CarlPierce wrote:... I'm puzzled by your apparant forgiveness for rendition (why still support Labour if you haven't forgiven them) but con-dem the lib-dems for not managing to get a policy implemented.

This shit, on a thread I started, calling for the jailing of those Labour ministers responsible for UK involvement in rendition! Idiocy of the most profound nature, or just plain lying & trolling? You decide. But strike number fucking four.

I think we covered rendition earlier. You belong to a party whose former leadership merrily supported rendition, and whose current leadership (many of whom are survivors of that regime, merely occupying different deckchairs on the same sorry ship) haven't distanced themselves from those actions.

chairman bill wrote:And that's from just one page, on one thread. Get your head out of your arse & recognise the misrepresentation that you & your ilk engage in.

I can't see any misrepresentation, much less outright lies.