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Oldskeptic wrote:

GT2211 wrote:

Oldskeptic wrote:
I want to know, and so should you, is how a cop in a police car got his left arm around the neck of a 6'4" Big Mike while the cop was still in his seat? I'll tell you how. Big Mike stuck his head through the window going for the cop. The lying sack of shit and his script writers were too fucking stupid to figure out that you can't just reach out the window of a car and grab a man that tall around the neck.

The cop was not in a car but an SUV I believe so grabbing the collar of his shirt wouldn't be that difficult.

The cop's car may look like an SUV, but it's no taller than a regular car.

Was he not driving the Chevy Tahoe in the YT videos? If he was since when are Chevy Tahoe's no taller than a regular car?

And the lying sack of shit didn't say that the cop grabbed Big Mike's shirt collar,


he said the cop grabbed Big Mike around the neck with his left arm while the cop was sitting in his car.

Sort of true. He said he grabbed his neck and as Mike pulled away got a hold of his shirt.

Then according to the lying sack of shit Big Mike was running away and the cop shot Big Mike in the back. Good story, but according to Baden's autopsy Big Mike wasn't shot in the back.

He didn't get struck in the back no. Its possible he could've got hit in arm from behind though and the autopsy examiners stated as much.

It seems plausible that he was struck from behind in the arm based upon the location of the bullets. He certainly wasn't running with his hands down and palms forward. I believe Baden's assistant said as much.

Its also plausible that he was shot with his arms up either surrendering or perhaps trying to use them to shield bullets if he were charging. But they aren't locations you would expect to find on someone hit in front who was running in a typical running form.

Really! Running in a typical form involves pumping the arms.

No shit sherlock. Nobody ever would've thought that, good thing you are on the case.

Where the assistant points to his own arm is consistent with a running towards you posture rather than a running away from you posture.

No the wound on the forearm is not. Having went just watched that segment of the conference. The assistant makes that explicitly clear. People don't typically walk in the standard anatomical position used where the thumbs are pointing outwards and palms forward. The wound in the forearm would be consistent with moving away from the officer and then discusses it also could've possibly came with him putting his arms up, which was pretty much exactly what I had said.

He starts discussing it at 18:55

Also a head down charging posture is consistent with the shot that hit the eyebrow, deflected out the eye socket, went through the chin, and into the chest. Just as the shot to the top of the head is consistent with a head down charging posture.

I agree on this much, though I don't think its the only plausible explanation. I don't think the autopsy result details that have been released so far settle much of anything.

I think my plausibles are better than yours.

Again, what I stated was the exact same thing that was stated by assistant during conference.

Alright I'm off to bed. Perhaps tom., I'll have time to get to the rest.