Posted: Jul 30, 2015 2:30 am
by purplerat
Willie71 wrote:
Weaver wrote:
Shrunk wrote:
mcgruff wrote:

But what about this specific case? Can we say nothing at all?

It could be argued that the suicide was completely unconnected to her imprisonment. I mention that only because technically it is an option.

Alternatively confinement did drive her to suicide - and in a very short space of time. There has to be a process of some kind to take her from A to B and it has to be something which would not display itself in the phone call. What could that be? How often do people kill themselves after only a few days in jail when they know they will be getting out in just a few more?


Good questions. I don't know the answers, but they may exist. I was mainly responding to the suggestion that the fact that she showed no clear indications of suicide risk indicated that she was likely murdered.

The autopsy report notes multiple parallel healed incisions, approximately 3 months old, on one forearm - this is highly indicative of depressive / suicidal behaviors. I think it is much more likely than not that this was indeed a suicide, albeit a completely unnecessary one (not that any are ever necessary) due to false imprisonment and incompetent medical care after being found.



Self harm and suicide are two different principles. One does not predict the other, excepting accidentally going too far.

True, but it counters the absurdly baseless assertion from several in this thread that she was emotional sound and had no mental health issues.