Posted: Sep 11, 2015 6:47 pm
by purplerat
monkeyboy wrote:
Briton wrote:
proudfootz wrote:
orpheus wrote:All of what you say - as well as Oldskeptic's point above - are excellent reasons why bringing guns into these situations is a terrible idea.


If they don't carry guns, then there goes the 'he was trying to grab my gun' excuse.


Check this thug out; sounds like he's trying to give himself an excuse to escalate the situation at around 2:30.


Prosecutors need to seek some hefty penalties here. Without the video from the front showing a submissive man, the soundtrack no doubt provided by cops from the car at the rear sounds totally contrived to justify all manner of physical abuse in pursuit of a combative and resistive suspect. Seriously worrying is the allegation that he is going for the cop's gun. After all, this claim is used to justify the use of lethal force in some cases.

When caught out like this, they need to throw the book, hell, the whole fucking library at them. Their actions throw doubt on the actions of all legitimate, professional LEOs out there who genuinely might have to use lethal force on someone trying to take their weapon.

Not only should the cop's directly involved be seriously prosecuted but what about those elsewhere who "investigated" and cleared their actions? That they missed the crucial evidence from the second car on scene is at the least gross negligence but if it can be shown they considered it then that's conspiracy to pervert justice, accessory after the fact, whatever the relevant charges are.

I really struggle with seeing this sort of thing. I'm assuming that at recruitment stage, cops are expected to demonstrate principles such as honesty, integrity, professionalism, a wish to protect and serve, some common decency etc and yet we keep seeing exactly the opposite and an institutional acceptance of that corruption of those basic principles. Worse still, in this case, it sounds as though a script was being performed to pre-emptively justify a violent arrest and/or to provide "evidence" to support more serious charges be brought.

Agreed, but doubt it will happen.

monkeyboy wrote:
Are other LEOs disgusted with them?

Maybe they are but they certainly aren't saying so, at least not in a meaningful way. Every time one of these videos comes out there's always another cop, or half dozen cops, standing around watching. They never seem to be bothered enough to step in to stop this shit nor are they apparently reporting it afterwards. Hence why we only find out about this once the video is revealed. Which pretty much destroys the "few bad apples" argument apologist will throw out there.

While I don't believe every or most cop in the US is like the ones charged in this case I equally do believe that just about every cop has witnessed such abuses and kept their mouth shut for one reason or another. Part of that I can't even blame them for since the whole system is rigged against bringing this shit to light or doing anything meaningful about it.