Posted: Oct 02, 2017 11:55 pm
by Ihavenofingerprints
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Ihavenofingerprints wrote:Not to mention monarchies like Spain and the UK can refuse to allow almost any succession on a whim. To argue against Catalan independence because it's illegal under a constitution which would have conflicted with human rights law had it not been written by governments with a vested interest themselves is fatuous.

There's also a difference between not recognising a public referendum as legally binding and outlawing a referendum which has no legal power anyway.


Has no legal power under a constitution which doesn't allow for succession. We all get it.

I didn't say I support the independence cause, but I think they have a right to freedom of assembly, freedom of expression and freedom to hold elections under EU law (or any just law) unmolested from Spanish police. Do they have an ultimate right to succeed? That's the most difficult question but we only need to answer it once the ballot has taken place without interference.