Posted: Oct 03, 2017 4:47 pm
by Thommo
GrahamH wrote:
Thommo wrote:
GrahamH wrote:
Thommo wrote:and therefore mandates the Scottish Government to take forward discussions with the UK Government on the details of an order under section 30 of the Scotland Act 1998 to ensure that the Scottish Parliament can legislate for a referendum to be held


I take that to mean they will go through the cooperative process but seek to ensure an referendum can be held.

It doesn't seem like a meek 'we'll have a referendum if Westminster will let us'.


Yeah, alright whatever. It's not like I care.

I'll concede the point. Clearly there will be a referendum in autumn 2018. There's absolutely no way anyone could think otherwise.


Isn't that a double standard? If Madrid can deny permission then stop a Catalan referendum why would it not be right, and why would it not happen, that Westminster might deny and permission and stop a Scottish referendum? Perhaps you think it would be right but couldn't happen here?


You posted that to the wrong thread, and all I can say in response is "what?" :what:

If the UK and Spain had different laws, no that would not be a double standard. If Madrid has some legal power that does not mean I think it is right that they have that power. Nor does it mean that I think that it is right that such power is exercised under any and all circumstances. Furthermore the reason I think Westminster didn't deny Scotland an independence referendum is that there's all sorts of evidence that that's not what happened, from my own memories, to extensive discussion of the matter on ratskep to all sorts of documents relating to it.

I can see literally no way to interpret anything I've said or anything anyone has said to mean any such thing. But there, now it's clarified.