Posted: Oct 03, 2017 7:15 pm
GrahamH wrote:Thommo wrote:GrahamH wrote:Thommo wrote:and therefore mandates the Scottish Government to take forward discussions with the UK Government on the details of an order under section 30 of the Scotland Act 1998 to ensure that the Scottish Parliament can legislate for a referendum to be held
I take that to mean they will go through the cooperative process but seek to ensure an referendum can be held.
It doesn't seem like a meek 'we'll have a referendum if Westminster will let us'.
Yeah, alright whatever. It's not like I care.
I'll concede the point. Clearly there will be a referendum in autumn 2018. There's absolutely no way anyone could think otherwise.
Isn't that a double standard? If Madrid can deny permission then stop a Catalan referendum why would it not be right, and why would it not happen, that Westminster might deny and permission and stop a Scottish referendum? Perhaps you think it would be right but couldn't happen here?
If the Tories pulled the same stunt over a Scottish referendum, as the Madrid government has pulled over the Catalan referendum, they'd pretty much guarantee that that Scots would want independence, and fast. Madrid has fucked up regally over the Catalan referendum, using bully-boy tactics to try and suppress it, and as a consequence, only made the Catalans want to stick the middle finger to Madrid with even more vigour.
If the Tories unleash the same sort of thuggery on the Scots, they'll not only make the Scots want independence with a vengeance, but stand a quantifiable chance of triggering a full-blown civil war. The Scots won't put up with that shit, and chances are they'll respond to it in, shall we say, Glaswegian fashion.
The Scots won't stand for Machiavellian manoeuvring on the part of the Tories either. That will be treated with the contempt that it deserves.