Posted: Oct 22, 2017 8:17 pm
by Thommo
GrahamH wrote:
Thommo wrote:Wait for an election and vote in a better prime minister.


Do you ever wonder why protest groups defending minority interest ever make a fuss when they could just wait for an election and vote in a leader that will support their interests and oust the oppressing majority's candidate?


Actually, that's exactly how most changes do get made. That's how being gay was decriminalised in most countries, it's how gay marriage has been legalised in dozens of countries, it's how the vast majority of franchise extensions have come to pass.

If it floats your boat to elide the distinction between an oppressed minority and what's going on in Catalonia today, go right ahead though, I won't stop you.

GrahamH wrote:Hang on. There's something wrong with the logic there.


What logic? It was a suggestion not a piece of reasoning. It's a suggestion based on real life outcomes and the incredible success of peaceful democracy.

Non democratic means have a track record that is spotty in terms of success and that has resulted in large loss of life in many cases.