Posted: Oct 23, 2017 9:51 pm
by Thommo
ronmcd wrote:With no clear route to a legal referendum (although they dispute that it was illegal), what holding the referendum has achieved is brought the issue out to a wider, EU, global audience. Hence we are discussing it, and the legal and perhaps moral entitlement to a referendum or other potential route to independence.

It clearly hasn't decided the independence question, but it would have been a question ignored by Madrid and the wider world if it hadn't happened.


The EU are explicitly doing nothing and there's every likelihood that the result within Spain will be wide support for direct rule.

Not every outcome is a good outcome. Though that said, it does raise the question of what a good outcome is, we aren't restricted to only considering PR applications of one side of the dispute, but can actually consider questions like what do the people of Catalonia actually want? What is actually an equitable solution? Is less redistribution of wealth across Spain desirable? And many other things.