Posted: Jun 28, 2018 9:35 am
by Cito di Pense
aban57 wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
aban57 wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:I'm just going with the empirical.

No you're not. You're conveniently forgetting about all social achievements in our history, focusing only on the negative things. You don't even care about seing the glass half empty or half full, you see it empty, when it's clearly not. That's the very definition of cynism.

What does it mean to you to see the glass as empty? How to treat the glass is a subjective matter. I'm going with the empirical.

I can appreciate technological progress without believing it is the salvation of humanity. What does it take to believe in salvation?

Seing a glass empty when it's half full (or half empty) is the exact opposite of "going with the empirical".

Yes, and that's your problem to deal with, in case you haven't been keeping track. Where have I said the glass is empty? I don't spout much confidence in social progress, which is two steps forward and two steps back. You can neglect the latter if you like, but that's subjectivity, for ya. This thread is, from your perspective, all about lamenting the backward steps.

I live in Europe, which is busy at the moment figuring out the politics of immigration. I'm not betting on a positive outcome. How would I do that, anyway? Employ refugees? How many people 'contributing' to this thread are employers?