Posted: Jun 28, 2018 9:46 am
by aban57
Cito di Pense wrote:

Yes, and that's your problem to deal with, in case you haven't been keeping track. Where have I said the glass is empty? I don't hold out much confidence in social progress

That's a position of belief, not one of looking at facts, and then building an opinion, which would be what "going with the eimpirical" would entail.

Cito di Pense wrote:
which is two steps forward and two steps back. You can neglect the latter if you like, but that's subjectivity, for ya. This thread is, from your perspective, all about lamenting the backward steps.

You're projecting here. How can I be neglecting the steps back, while from my perspective, being all about lamenting the backward steps ? You make no sense. You're the one refusing to see the steps forward, from your own admission, which disqualifies you from claiming you're going empirical.

Cito di Pense wrote:
I live in Europe, which is busy at the moment figuring out the politics of immigration. I'm not betting on a positive outcome.


Who cares ? And how is that being empirical ?