Posted: Jul 17, 2018 9:19 am
ronmcd wrote:GrahamH wrote:minininja wrote:Ooh and there've been a couple more resignations too. Chris Green and Conor Burns, not really sure who they are but it's starting to feel like a pack of dominoes tumbling over. May is toast.
Or Brexit is toast. It's not as if there is anyone with an actual plan that could get elected as leader/PM and deliver a Brexit for everyone, is there?
Granted there are a few who might be prepared to actually sail the good ship Britannia over the edge, but I'm not sure the part of the parliament will let that happen. Isn't May still the best shot at leaving EU membership, the least bad option?
Or are we heading for a general election by Christmas?
Leavers want no free movement, no European legal jurisdiction, no restrictions on other trade deals. Those things wont happen in conjunction with tariff free trade in goods or services. So any PM, May or otherwise, will either take us out of the EU almost entirely, hard borders, tariffs, chaos - or will be forced into a Norway type situation of effectively being still in but without the ability to set or vote on the rules of the club.
Those are currently the two options. The second is my choice. We will end up with the first.
IMO.
We're fucked. There's no time to be unfucked.
There's no option one due to the NI border problem which can only be resolved by not leaving the EU - which btw, this information was known for the last couple of decades but never brought up during the campaign. All the remainers side had to do with a bus was paint "Do you want terrorism back on the streets of the uk?" on the side.
What worries me more is that nobody seemed to realise the NI issue until fairly recently or they did realise it, and that was factored into this which would mean they all knew we weren't leaving.