Posted: Jul 17, 2018 9:56 am
by GrahamH
ronmcd wrote:
GrahamH wrote:
minininja wrote:Ooh and there've been a couple more resignations too. Chris Green and Conor Burns, not really sure who they are but it's starting to feel like a pack of dominoes tumbling over. May is toast.


Or Brexit is toast. It's not as if there is anyone with an actual plan that could get elected as leader/PM and deliver a Brexit for everyone, is there?
Granted there are a few who might be prepared to actually sail the good ship Britannia over the edge, but I'm not sure the part of the parliament will let that happen. Isn't May still the best shot at leaving EU membership, the least bad option?

Or are we heading for a general election by Christmas?

Leavers want no free movement, no European legal jurisdiction, no restrictions on other trade deals. Those things wont happen in conjunction with tariff free trade in goods or services. So any PM, May or otherwise, will either take us out of the EU almost entirely, hard borders, tariffs, chaos - or will be forced into a Norway type situation of effectively being still in but without the ability to set or vote on the rules of the club.

Those are currently the two options. The second is my choice. We will end up with the first.

IMO.

We're fucked. There's no time to be unfucked.


I think you are right, but still there are those pointing out that these differences cannot be resolved, that the UK will never be able to agree a position, let alone get the 27 to accept it and that the only way ahead is to put the three options to the people.

Justine Greening has joined a growing number of MPs calling for a second referendum after declaring Theresa May‘s Chequers deal a “fudge”. Calling the current government plan the “worst of both worlds”, she advocated for giving the final decision back to the people in an article for the Times. The former minister is the most prominent Tory MP to back what has been branded a “people’s vote” – with around 100 MPs now publicly supporting it. Ms Greening told Radio 4’s Today programme: “The reality is Parliament is now stalemated. Whatever the proposal on the table, there will be MPs who vote it down. But Britain needs to find a route forward.”

Read more at: https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/justi ... eferendum/

a) Just walk away with no deal
b) Compromise
c) Don't leave