Posted: Mar 27, 2019 8:57 pm
willhud9 wrote:quas wrote:Cito di Pense wrote:quas wrote:
I'm not confused. I prefer to use the term "militant atheism". Just as there are theists and militant theists, so there are atheists and militant atheists. You know how the libtards keep saying things like "religion is not the problem, fundamentalism (militant theism) is"? Well, Sam Harris argued irrefutably that theism -followed to its logical conclusion- inevitably leads to militant theism. The fact that not all theists are militant suggests that not everyone is logical or have the courage to follow through their conviction.
What you're implying is that some people are better than others. I'll give that a day or two to sink in, to see if you get the connection between 'militant atheism' and other religions. When you suggest that some people are better than others, you have to ask, relative to what?
If you have the courage to follow through your conviction, of course you are better than others. But then again, when you use the term "better", it really depends on perspective. Better for who? The theist who follows his beliefs to its logical conclusion would probably blow himself up for 72 virgins. If that theist blows himself up within your physical proximity, is that better for you? Is that better for himself even?
Your ignorance of Islamic theology parodies the right wing islamophobia rampant in the West.
Your assertion without substantiation that if Muslims were consistent in their beliefs it would all lead to militantism is incorrect. Try again.
Well the Quran does teach intolerance (and sometimes murder) to the other believers or unbelievers. Apostasy is punished by death. And let's not get into how it portrays women.
But what quas harris doesn't understand, is that being raised in this religion, being forced to obey that book, and making the conscient choice of refusing to apply the violent part, makes the large majority of "non militant" Muslims much better humans than quas harris and consorts. Like I said earlier, they just want to live in peace, which is not something he-they can say.
ETA : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_in_the_Quran