Posted: Mar 29, 2019 11:23 am
by Cito di Pense
quas wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:Failure to comply? What is it you'd like me to comply with? You're not so spooked by supernatural beliefs that you think they're more than excuses, are you?

That's the point! Without eternal damnation for not complying, why would anyone bother to "fight hand to hand for ideological purity"?

If you don't know, quas, I don't either. The Soviets, who were nominally atheist, fought a bit about ideological purity. I guess it happened in Kampuchea, too, and places like that. This is the kind of evidence I cite that theistic motivations are not the only ones behind fighting for ideological purity. As for the evidence you cite, you claim supernatural motivations are present, and I claim those are just excuses, since the burden isn't on me to prove that they're anything more than excuses. Are Nazi Party members and sympathizers motivated by religious symbolism?

It's not that I don't think religion is a pain in the arse. I'm perhaps just not as spooked by 'demands for compliance' as you are. You live someplace, or so I've heard, where all your anti-religious opinions need to be kept private. If what's driving your rant is only the pressure you feel because you can't express yourself freely, I'm sorry you're in that situation. Were I in the same bind, I wouldn't be blowing off steam in internet chat-rooms, because that's just me feeling sorry for myself. I have no idea of the other dimensions of your situation. If you have employment that affords you a good living, I can understand why you might not seek asylum beyond the borders within which you feel so oppressed.