Posted: Mar 29, 2019 12:03 pm
by quas
Cito di Pense wrote:If you don't know, quas, I don't either. The Soviets, who were nominally atheist, fought a bit about ideological purity. I guess it happened in Kampuchea, too, and places like that. This is the kind of evidence I cite that theistic motivations are not the only ones behind fighting for ideological purity. As for the evidence you cite, you claim supernatural motivations are present, and I claim those are just excuses, since the burden isn't on me to prove that they're anything more than excuses. Are Nazi Party members and sympathizers motivated by religious symbolism?

Supernatural motivations are so potent because they are not debatable. Someone declares that as truth, you just have to have accept. Commies like the Soviets, the Chinese, or the North Koreans even. And the Nazis too. What do they all have in common with religion? They have set up rigid structures of power hierarchy that's immune from criticism. What's the atheistic equivalent of that?

Don't just unthinkingly spout nonsense like "religion isn't the problem, fundamentalism is", when we know for a fact that fundamentalism is the problem only because the fundamentals are. The fundamentalist Jains are never a problem for anyone.

It's not that I don't think religion is a pain in the arse. I'm perhaps just not as spooked by 'demands for compliance' as you are. You live someplace, or so I've heard, where all your anti-religious opinions need to be kept private.

It needs to be let out, the world needs to know what I've witnessed. Imagine! An entire country of 200 million people being held hostage, and not a single bullet was involved. And people were outraged because a nutcase with lots of bullets managed to kill only 40 people?

Were I in the same bind, I wouldn't be blowing off steam in internet chat-rooms, because that's just me feeling sorry for myself.

I'm not in this to blow off steam. I've decided that finally the absurdity, madness and horrors made possible by widespread social-acceptance of religion has to end. Which is why I'm more pissed at libtards than any religious or white supremacist terrorist.