Posted: Aug 12, 2019 7:22 pm
Spearthrower wrote:
No Scot. The default position is that he killed himself until evidence shows otherwise. The reason that's the default position is because it's not pluralizing events or actors without necessity, as in, he definitely died, and the simplest apparent cause is suicide. Does that mean I am saying it's 'sure' that he committed suicide? No, of course not, as I've already explained to you, regardless of how you're trying to formulate my position as a certain claim.
What we do know is that he already tried to commit suicide. The actual controversy isn't whether he was bumped off on the orders of the British monarchy, or shadowy rich and powerful figures, but why he wasn't closely watched, why his prior suicide attempt didn't result in him being monitored. That's the sane position.
While I agree with the crux of the quoted, in that right now the default position is that he committed suicide, I didn't see where it was reported that the prior incident was definitely a botched suicide. The reports said it was unclear if those wounds were self-inflicted.
"The brief hearing on Wednesday morning ended without mention of the July 23 incident at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, where Mr. Epstein was found passed out in his jail cell with marks on his neck.
The authorities have yet to explain what happened to Mr. Epstein. It remains unclear whether he attempted suicide or was attacked by another inmate."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-court.html
Here's another article from the time.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/jeffrey-epstein-found-injured-marks-his-neck-new-york-jail-n1034301
And according to this article it wasn't reported that attempted suicide was a certainty-
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-dies-by-suicide-report.html