Posted: Sep 19, 2019 6:08 am
ronmcd wrote:GrahamH wrote:Labour may be about to chase the lib dems to that extreme.
Pro-remain members have tabled some 61 motions calling for the party to revoke Article 50, and senior figures on the front bench, including Diane Abbott, Keir Starmer and Emily Thornberry, have said that they would campaign for remain in the event of a second referendum.
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck ... Q3dJUJvz34
There's a difference between the libs revoke based on a FPTP election win (which they can never win), and campaigning for remain in a 2nd referendum. The first is extreme, the second is not.
Labour had the chance btw to vote for one of the amendments 6 months ago that would have triggered revoking, ONLY if no deal was the only option. They didn't vote for it.
I dont see a great difference between either democratic process. If the issue is central to the manifesto, as they have made it, a GE win gives a strong mandate to revoke. Why is a remain referendum any more legitimate as a route revoke?
Mps voting to revoke if no deal is undemocratic at the 2016 result. It must be the electorate that decides to change direction.
If they can "never win" anyway that rather emphasises the democratic power to withhold or grant a mandate.