Posted: Dec 15, 2019 5:55 am
by jamest
Spearthrower wrote:
jamest wrote:... the notion that the NHS is not going to exist nor that you will not have access to medical care after The Conservatives won on Thursday/Friday, is utterly ludicrous. I mean, you might be forgetting this but we've already had 9 years of a Tory government in a financially crippled Britain/World.


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The NHS has been crippled by the last 9 years of Tory government!

No, it's been crippled by a Tory government that inherited debt to levels that have almost made this country bankrupt. Or do you think that the Conservatives imposed austerity upon its people for a laugh?

It's a bit like waking up yourself and realising that you're thousands of pounds/dollars in debt and can no longer afford to pay the interest. What do you do? You make severe cuts in your own spending. At least, that's what most reasonable people do.

What's wrong here is that most people don't seem to appreciate that such principles extend to governments and that money - even for them - doesn't grow on trees. Of course, where you've got a situation in which the welfare state cannot cope and yet millions of Europeans are allowed to enter the country and put a stress on the whole infrastructure, of course you're going to notice a diminishing quality of service right across the board.

Regardless, the people here expect the government of the UK to pluck cash out of its ass and pay for top quality services across the board, even when no such cash is at hand. It's like you realising that you're skint and having to make cuts, and your children moaning about the diminishing quality of their Xmas and birthday presents, but you're fucked so what can you do? Borrow more? Sure, if someone is mug-enough to give it to you, but you and I know that this is the route to oblivion. The selfish British 'children' on the other hand, will not forgive you for their diminished quality of existence. And that's precisely where we are at here. Socialists moaning about there not being enough money for the hospitals, schools, police, army, etc. etc., when there is no fucking money and when borrowing more to pay for it all does nothing but guarantee the bankruptcy of 'Britain".

That it still struggles on right on the brink of the precipice after 9 years of Tory governance is not something to engender confidence. With a majority and less effective opposition, there is every reason for people reliant on the NHS to be deeply concerned. But I expect you're alright Jack.

You're fucking deluded. Like many others, including the good ol' USA, this country has been sustaining the quality of its public services upon the back of ever-increasing borrowed funds for decades! We've recently seen several countries such as Greece and Portugal in Europe and many such countries elsewhere on the brink of bankruptcy. The situation in Britain is not one forged over the last 9 years. For fuck's sake man, wake the fuck up!