Posted: Mar 30, 2020 9:26 am
by WayOfTheDodo
Hermit wrote:So, come November it's either Biden or Sanders versus Trump.

The most likely scenario: Biden can't avoid televised debates with Trump. Trump effortlessly makes Biden look like the demented fool that he has become. In fact, even without the debates Trump will make him look that way. It's too easy. Biden practically makes himself look like the demented fool because that is what he has become. Voters decide they prefer to be led by a sociopath than a demented fool. 20% of Sanders supporters do what they've done four years earlier and either don't vote at all or vote for trump. Trump wins.

The less likely scenario: Sanders puts up a good show during televised debates with Trump, but Trump, with massive assistance of most of the mainstream fake news media he so hates, paints him as a communist. Trump has never lost the support of 40-45% of the voters. Enough of the rest decide they prefer to be led by a sociopath than a communist. Trump wins.


O, wonder!
How many goodly creatures are there here!
How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world,
That has such people in't!

I'm not sure the "Socialist! Communist!" smear is going to work that well against Bernie. Bernie has embraced the socialism label, and has turned it against the corporatists by pointing out the difference between Democratic Socialism and Corporate Socialism.

I mean, Biden isn't leading the primary right now because people think Sanders is a socialist. In fact, a majority of those polled in Texas(!) actually viewed socialism positively. Bernie's policies are also supported by a majority of Democratic voters (and independents).

And unlike Biden, who is running on "I'm so qualified and I alone can save the world" (his announcement video actually contained a segment where he talked about how world leaders were calling him and telling him he was the only one who could save the world), Bernie is running on policy. Biden is saying that "I'm the qualified guy who can bring politeness and normalcy back to the White House", while Sanders is saying that "the system is broken, and here's what I'm going to do about it".

It's really easy to attack someone running on character (remember the swiftboating of Kerry?). It's not so easy to attack someone running on policy. You think Trump is going to attack Bernie on trade deals? LOL. He can try attacking Bernie on healthcare, but this actually brings more attention to Bernie's healthcare policy, which is most likely a good thing.

And while Trump will be able to attack Biden during debates by hammering him on corruption and things like attacking and threatening a factory worker on the campaign trail, Bernie will easily be able to pivot to policy and simply talk about his policies that are mostly very popular to Americans (not just Democrats).

Bernie would likely beat Trump. Biden would almost certainly lose to Trump.