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michael^3 wrote:

mrjonno wrote:

Well either the father pays or somebody else pays. I don't see why one should be worse than the other.

One is someone else the other is me (and taxpayers in general). Me paying is always worse

Does that mean that you are in favor of killing orphans?

No I'm favour of making sure we don't have as few orphans in the first place and there are basically two ways to try and achieve that

1) along the lines of tell everyone sex is wrong outside marriage make un-married sex illegal , let babies born out of wedlock starve to death without state assistance

2) assume everyone is going to have sex anyway, encourage contraceptives but when people are unlucky/incompetent encourage them to abort babies they don't want/feel them can look after

Once someone is born and sentient the state/society has a responsibility to them (even if the parents don't care). I accept that as a taxpayer but if I can't pass most the bill to the parents I would rather they weren't born in the first place