Posted: Mar 16, 2018 11:18 pm
SafeAsMilk wrote:jamest wrote:SafeAsMilk wrote:I'm not really sure what that has to do with, or in any way justifies them being tortured.
I didn't suggest that it did. Playing devil's advocate, I'm merely suggesting that if humans didn't have a use for horses, then horses generally would probably be more fucked than they already are. The only conclusion you can reasonably infer from these comments is that human behaviour is generally deplorable, to the extent that if we didn't allow humans to use animals such as horses as they currently do then one would have to fear for the future of there being any horses at all. Except maybe in zoos.
I'm not really sure if that's the case, after all innumerable species exist that aren't of any use to humans at all. But let's grant it anyway. You're saying that horses not existing (and therefore not being tortured) is more fucked or "worse off" than existing and being tortured, right?
To be honest I'm unaware as to the extent of the ill-treatment of horses. It does strike me as odd though that an owner of a horse that is (or has the potential to be) worth many dollars (many millions thereof in some instances), would treat said horse with utter disdain. I don't know a lot about horses, but I know enough about humans to know that they will do their best to protect a valuable asset. So, I'm dubious as to the extent of this cruelty, though do not doubt that it ever happens.
Your last question is quite interesting. I mean, I would suggest that throughout history the vast majority of humans have suffered greatly because of the cruelty of a minority of humans. The rich taking advantage of the poor and ignorant, for instance, or the Kings/politicians sitting in the thrones and using the peasants to fight their wars. Etc.. This is still the case now, but I do not wish to see humanity become extinct or close to it to alleviate us of this fubar suffering. Rather, my hope is that humanity survives and changes sufficient to rid itself of these cruelties. Therefore, being consistent, I would prefer that the horse population stays large and that eventually our cruelties towards them will diminish/vanish in the not-so-distant future.