Posted: Jan 27, 2020 9:56 am
aufbahrung wrote:Hermit wrote:aufbahrung wrote:the means to reproduce productively fail in the face of resource limits and living space and a decline in social values
Scrumple, I'm quite used to you spouting nonsense, but this bit takes the cake. 1. Birth rates are the highest in the poorest areas. 2. There is no correlation between declining social values and dropping birth rates. 3. The most noticeable correlation concerning birth rates is the ready availability of fertility controls, the anti-baby pill being the most conspicuous among them.
I kind of feel tempted to ask you to put your brain into gear before setting your typing fingers into motion, but since you have never done so in your 56 years it seems extremely unlikely that you will start now.
Possibly, I've seen Idiocracy too. All the more reason to limit immigration to the few who are gonna add real economic and cultural value to a community than the many who are fleeing broken nations they should really be fixing. Or at the least fleeing to those with similar cultural values.
It's a perspective I suppose? What productive might be meaning to one person. Might mean something more longterm for another, many generations to make a Newton. Not so many to make a lightbulb.
What will you try and tell me next, Scrumple? That the net economic effect of migration is negative unless one screens the ones who are not neurosurgeons or billionaires out?
That's not the experience we had when 185,000 Vietnamese refugees started arriving in Australia after the fall of Saigon, many of which turned up uninvited in Darwin on rickety boats.
It is also not the experience we had when 76,000 Lebanese arrived here, mostly as refugees from the Lebanese Civil War in 1975-1990.
The vast majority have become tax-paying wage earners making a positive contribution to our economy. Some of them have become top-level professionals after their arrivals.
The current governor of South Australia is Hieu Van Le. Aged 24, he came by boat to Darwin as a refugee in 1977 with his wife Lan and about 40 other people. Their two sons were born in Australia and are named after Australian cricketers Sir Donald Bradman and Kim Hughes. Hieu Van Le studied at the University of Adelaide, as a result of which he graduated with a Master of Business Administration and an Economics degree. His career included a stint as a senior investigator and manager with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission from the early 1990s until his retirement in 2009.