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Hermit wrote:

Svartalf wrote:but thanks for pointing the fact that African/Arabic immigrants indeed have failed to integrate

That's not what aban57 wrote, Svartalf. Please read what he did write again:

aban57 wrote:You're buidling a false dichotomy between the "brown" immigrates, who don't integrate, according to you, and the european immigrates, who "perfectly integrate". Typical Le Pen argument.

To help your comprehension along, let me draw your attention to the following words: "You're buidling a false dichotomy" and "Typical Le Pen argument". In case you still don't get it, aban is describing what you call "the fact that African/Arabic immigrants indeed have failed to integrate" a false dichotomy, one that you built, and a typical Le Pen argument.

Now, I believe that there are in fact enclaves and ghettos of African/Arabic immigrants that have failed to integrate. We have a similar problem in Australia, except for the fact that our ghettos and enclaves consist of people whose ancestors have lived here for thousands of years before Captain Arthur Phillip proclaimed British sovereignty over the eastern seaboard of Australia 232 years and 2 days ago. For this absurd reason we celebrate the 26th of January as "Australia Day". Most Aborigines refer to it as Invasion Day.

Now, the questions arise: Are the Aborigines incapable of integrating with what started off as British culture? Are they mendaciously refusing to integrate? Or is our behaviour toward them preventing them from doing so?

In my opinion the latter scenario applies. We have stopped actually massacring Australia's original population in 1927, but we have historically treated them as a distinct race that was bound to remain separate or extinguished altogether. In the early censuses, starting in 1901, they were not even counted. Although we happily used them as soldiers in both world wars, it took decades before we admitted them formally as citizens and allowed them to vote. Until the 1950s, and to a lesser extent as late as the 1970s we tried to breed them out of existence by kidnapping their children in the reservations by the thousands and placing them in upright and uptight Anglo-Saxon, or at least Caucasian households. It's where the expression of "the stolen generations" comes from. Of course now our right wing pundits deny it ever happened.

We did confer "honorary whiteness" on successful Aboriginal sporting figures like Evonne Goolagong. That is as long as they were not outspoken about their lot, as Adam Goode found out not so long ago.

Today, all the formal and legal impediments of being an Aborigine have been dismantled, but our pervasive everyday racism towards them remains and this othering acts as a barrier to integration every bit as effectively as the formal and legal forms of segregation of yore. I suggest this is also the case with the African/Arabic immigrants in France, and you are just one of the millions of racists that perpetuate it.