Posted: Dec 28, 2020 5:56 pm
by Ironclad
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Ironclad wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Ironclad wrote:
And a very merry Christmas to you and your family too.
The levelled playing field is something to aspire to, I cannot argue there at all. It is the retrospective ‘horror’ of what once was, the Cancel Culture and the demands that annoy me. There are chances now for all to grasp, and the future needs to be written, so the youngsters could get out there and do it. Rather than changing popular culture by demand.
Rising Damp is an excellent example, we’ve had this chat recently.

How did you think things like universal voting, women's right to vote, the right to abortion and many other achievements were started?

By lobbying, placard waving and self sacrifice? As opposed to demanding special treatment and breaking shit, say.

Lobbying is pressuring governments other organisations to give in to your demands. I.e. you're demanding things.
Placard waving is displaying your demands prominently in public and demanding they get implemented.

More than that though, demanding social justice is the exact opposite of demanding special treatment. It's about treating people fairly and equitable. To not just care for the demands and issues of the wealthy and powerful, but also for the poor and people on the fringes of society.

I’ve done the former, I imagine you have too

Yes, I have and continue to do. Unlike you however I don't operate under the misunderstanding that social justice is about demanding special treatment or that changes to social convention come about without demanding said changes.

Perhaps. Also, there is nothing wrong with social justice to my mind. It is why we are here today, mostly in unity.