Posted: Jun 17, 2014 6:01 pm
Jayjay4547 wrote:
Seriously , it looks to me you are putting up a straw man as an excuse for saying something interesting about the past. Got me thinking, if all the 11000 articles that evolutionary biologists wrote in a year (I seem to recall that figure from Cali) – if they were all somehow macerated and used to make egg boxes, the world would still stagger around. But if a year’s findings of palaeontology were somehow destroyed, we would all be definitely the poorer. The smallest new fact dug up from the past feeds us. And if the dead hand of ideology is ever removed from the theory of evolution it will evolve towards a discipline like history and towards its core palaeontology.
The theory of evolution has no ideological basis other than rational skepticism.
It has nothing to do with atheism nor does atheism have anything to do with ToE.
Jayjay4547 wrote:
So I was trying to say that it’s just as obvious that Australopithecus avoided predation by fighting using hand-held foreign objects.
Except that there's nothing obvious about as you have not offered a shred of evidence for that claim.
Only blind assertions and assumptions.
Jayjay4547 wrote:To not see that would be like not seeing that Tyrannosaurus ate meat.
Bollocks of the highest order.
We have evidence of T-Rex having carnivore teeth and eating meat.
We have 0 evidence of A. ghari using any tools, let alone weapons.
Jayjay4547 wrote: Part of the evidence is in the shape of the teeth.
And the fossolised excrements of T-Rex.
Jayjay4547 wrote:The australopiths didn’t.
Neither did their ancestors. That doesn't prove they used weapons anymore than austrolopiths did.
Jayjay4547 wrote:And they didn’t have any other obvious means to avoid predation.
How do you know this? FFS, again, neither did their ancestors. Nor did many bird species, other mammals etc.
Jayjay4547 wrote:Also Two factors have blinded us. One is that whereas we can recognise T rex’s adaptation from many other examples of toothy predators
The evidence for T-Rex being predators and carnivores is their teeth and their fossilised excrements.
That similar evidence can be found in other carnivores is irrelevant to whether T-Rex were predators and carnivores.
Jayjay4547 wrote:the only examples of animals that are adapted into using foreign objects kinetically to defend themselves are the tiny sample of primates from our own line. It’s very particular. Secondly it so happens that the investigating authority in this case, is in the same line of descent as the australopiths and his mind is completely sizzled with ideological requirements for his origin story- and these don’t include that human ancestors reacted defensively to their environment- that they were formed by exterior agents.
Mindlessly rergugitating this ideology canard only demonstrates your inability to defend your claim.
You've failed to demonstrate what ideology, if any, negatively influences biologists, paleontologists et al and how.
Jayjay4547 wrote:Would it be unreasonable to call that ideological dinning pathological?
Yes, because you haven't even established this ideological influence in the first place.
Jayjay4547 wrote:Take Piltdown Man I was citing above.
A common creationist canard. That you think this might support your case in any way only goes to show your ignorance on this topic.
Seriously Jayjay, if all you have to offer is mindless creationist canards you might as well quit now.
We've seen and thouroughly debunked it many times before on this board.